I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. can you share any pix? The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. Think NCAA and NBA courts. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. San and finish guys come in next. Any suggestions would be great. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. Just wondering if 2 coats of the Traffic HD is enough or should I add a 3rd coat of the finish even in rooms that arent used as heavily? So hand rail and newl postadvice would be appreciated! The instructions on the bottle is straight forward. Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). :), McCarthy September 15 2020 post question about last sentence, or anyone please+sealant. https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Over the years, theres been a lot of things Ive cut costs on, but I feel it doesnt pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Nice when a risk pays off . (Mirror and lighting still not in). The supplier may help you out. DH wants to just go with light maple cabinets and I am tempted. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. The 'big boys' of the finishing industry are 2-3 times more expensive than DuraSeal (and for good reason) which means the professionals will make less money. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? One other question. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. Houzz uses cookies and similar technologies to personalise my experience, serve me relevant content, and improve Houzz products and services. Hey Merrilyn, looks like we are in the same boat. The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. ! You only need an inch. I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. 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I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. The reason: they turn orange. You only need an inch. They did a great job. @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. Then go with water based and be done with it. I agree that Bona Natural or Bona Classic will likely be what we choose. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. Hd and Supra extra matte does not. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. His maternal grandfather, Justice Thomas Smith, had been for many years a prominent lawyer and a distinguished judge in Philadelphia, and his maternal great-uncle, the Rev. More great information. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! We also added the clerestory windows like you did. 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! I was asked two separate questions. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Ahhhh. They held up to move in with no major scratches. You can get a natural matte finish in medium- light tones with the colors mist, natural, white 5%, white, and cotton white. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. Use two coats of natural seal and two coats of naturale. Thank you for your input. what made you decide to go with natural. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. I am aware that it will require maintenance but most things do so Im fine with it. Very patient. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Yep. After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. P.P.S. A red oak floor does not need sealant. I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? Cant decide! They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. They should be able to get the job done for you. P.S. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. Bona Naturale will also do this. The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Its typically the primary color in gardens. Is that really that difficult? Is this permissible to use on cabinets. Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? The light white washing will give you the raw look. The builder already ordered the wood. Anything over 700 square feet for me is done in multiple days. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. Some Quartzites are more grainy which make them more porous. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? You should look it up. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. :). Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. Of the Bona sealers, NordicSeal looks to white to me and AmberSeal - well the name says it all, trying to stay away from the amber look. Christina check out Rubio monocoat Gris belge Havana Slate grey These greys are very popular and with the matte sheen you will absolutely love them. its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. Look forward to more pictures. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. We will be going with something close to that. Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. WebBona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. . It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. thanks, so much. It requires a special approach. You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. Don't disagree with you at all. It was light and made the room appear larger. Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. Red oak stairs - Do I install white oak floors or red? 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Here are pictures of Bona Natural and Traffic HD on white oak for anyone wondering, Gorgeous! I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. The matte helps scratches blend. Sigh. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. @skru33 Thanks! Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. Bona NaturalSeal has a bit of white pigment (less than NordicSeal). I have it in my home. Just my 2 cents worth but typically, OAK flooring will shrink/expand ACROSS the grain it's usually pretty stable end to end, as with most hardwood species. Thanks for the responses. I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! We love our floors! And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. Our contractor suggested Bona Mega to save some money. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. It still should not come off. They bring in wood from various locations. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. Use natural seal. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. If, you want a raw pale look. D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. I hope some of this information is helpful. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. I already lost quite a bit of money in the process so I wanted to know what I get before committing. @Jonathan Margareten- I read through my old post, and am not sure if thats what we ended up doing. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. Those are STUNNING! Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Dry finish. Good luck! If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. Apply and wipe off excess. That makes SOOOO much sense. Source: elsesun.com. . It is not the homeowner's fault that the job was bid too low (but they did accept the bid)but it is now the homeowner's experience (part of the decision process of taking the low bid) to live through a full sand and refinish of a brand new floor. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. Seems I also read that it may not even cover that much some places. Just seemed so right. 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Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. William Smith, D.D., was Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! I have about 735 sf. Shaina.. White Macaubas is a true Quartzite not a granite. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. Thank you for your feedback. Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? Then the next day a coat of finish. Could my response be taken incorrectly? After sanding I loved the natural look of the wood including the knots and imperfections. Hi everyone! For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. It is engineered 7 - to be finished on site. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. The fabricator was really nice and pulled whole Quartz slabs from his warehouse into the parking lot for me to see. We want a more modern aesthetic. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. My sister has Neolith and loves it (clean up a breeze but she does have nicks near her sink after 1 year). The cabinets were custom and all paint is SW- Pure White. professional finishes are sold in gallons only. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. Apply the second coat. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Will Bona Mega keep the wood color natural and avoid yellowing over time? Im glad we didnt go darker. I do love the natural color. They are dry and need one more day to cure. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. After looking into the flooring situation I found that if a wood floor person says "it won't hold up in Florida" theirs won't! My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? I waxed it out. This is not designed to be the tough outer layer @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. Have a wet rag handy to wipe away mistakes and drips. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. Would love to see finished product! The floor guys made custom floor vents. Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. It sounds like this does a really good job at what we are both after. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. !Are you happy with the Satin? 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